[Heh. Dizzy’s exercise from yesterday now makes a lot more sense. Will Iain deny sending him an email about this, I wonder?]
UPDATE (10pm) – Cute. Iain now appears to be holding back on any comments I submit. He’ll be telling me to ‘grow up’ or ‘engage in a proper debate’ next, just you watch.
UPDATE (11pm) – Sorry. If you’re new here, this is what Iain is most probably bitching about. Still nothing back from Iain yet. Looks like he just wanted to spit his dummy and leave it at that. And not a scrap of curiosity about 126.96.36.199, you’ll note.
UPDATE (22 Aug 10:30am) – Iain has cleared a whole bunch of comments for publication, but not mine. Two comments submitted ask why he’s not clearing my comments and there’s been no answer… so he does want to spit his dummy and leave it at that. In other news, Dizzy is ‘worried’ about me, but only in a casual ‘just thought I’d blog this’ way. No real effort has gone into it or anything…
UPDATE (11am) – Ahahahaha! Look at where Dizzy locks the relevant thread… right after he stupidly spells out something I was honour-bound not to mention. Last month Iain accidentally CCed Dizzy when he clearly meant to alert him privately to our conversation via a BCC… but not in any way that could be described as a conspiracy, of course. Iain only (eventually) admitted to doing this because I promised it would be off-the-record. And that’s the way I kept things until Dizzy opened his big, fat mouth. Thanks, Dizzy.
[BTW, that email exchange was about outright libel (as opposed to ‘almost libel’)… the anonymous kind that Iain Dale and Paul Staines have made a bad habit of tolerating if not encouraging on their websites.]
If the BBC ran this story but also spent a few moments looking into the background of the organisation pushing it (i.e. using the word ‘Conservative’ somewhere and pulling up well short of yelling “Tory front!”), that would be typical of its liberal bias, yes?
UPDATE – Over at B3ta, some peeps remember a similar association involving Chorlton and the Wheelies: The show was sold to numerous countries around the world. However it was never sold to Israel after a graphic artist mistakenly drew a Star of David instead of a Pentangle on the front of the talking spellbook, which spoke with a Germanic accent.
Tch. I thought most politicians had tried grass, and decided that they didn’t like it. Shows what I know…
Times – Parliament protesters are evicted: Dozens of people who have been camping opposite Parliament have been evicted. The Greater London Authority said that it had to act because the area had become a “health hazard”. Litter was being strewn around Parliament Square and it was being used as a public toilet, officials said. The authority said that it was taking no action against Brian Haw, the veteran campaigner who has been protesting against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan for five years.
Guardian – Parliament protest cleared: The camp, which was begun by Brian Haw, was disbanded yesterday afternoon after police and officials from the Greater London authority issued eviction notices. A spokesman said it had been forced to act because of a growing litter problem and because campers were using Parliament Square as a public toilet. He said that no action had been taken against Mr Haw, who has been protesting at the site since 2001. Yesterday Mr Haw told the Evening Standard: “Ken Livingstone is … very concerned the peace camp may be killing grass in Parliament Square – what about the kids in Baghdad, Ken?”
IndyMedia – SOCPA – report and film of yesterday’s raid on parliament square: yesterday’s operation saw the greater london council use bye-laws to once again curb brian’s protest. over recent weeks, some new tents had arrived in the square, and some of the people in them, not connected with the peace protest in any way, began to behave anti-socially. it is unclear why these people sudenly turned up, but it gave the ken livingston the excuse to put out press releases yesterday claiming that peace protestors were defecating in the flower-beds and causing other problems. most of the mainstream media dutifully spread these lies, and gave cover to another expensive operation as, yesterday morning, a seven foot high wire fence was erected to enclose the entire square.
BBC – Parliament peace campers evicted: Mr Haw has permission from the police to have a 24-hour demonstration site on the pavement of Parliament Square under the Serious Organised Crime and Police Act 2005. The GLA said this is being respected. The metal security fence skirts around Mr Haw’s tent, where he has been living since he began his vigil in 2001. But access to the rest of the square is being restricted by GLA officials and a small number of police officers.
So now, as an unfortunate side-effect, *nobody* can protest on Parliament Square. Oh, goodie.
2. In my experience when Councils and similar authorities see someone ruining their nice clean [blank], they try to catch who’s doing it for a number of practical reasons (it often stops with one person, chances of civil recovery, etc.). Police have been down at the square regularly taking pictures and logging faces for months… years now. Surely the police and the GLA, even if they don’t work in tandem, are working to identify exactly who has been messing in the bushes. Actually, with all that manpower and evidence to hand they must have managed to arrest the miscreant(s) by now…. No? Odd, that.
4. So how long will that fence be in place? If it’s officially to allow the seeding or laying of lawn, they’ve got a few weeks, realistically.
GlobalResearch.ca – Reagan Diaries: George W: “Find the Kid a Job”…: Direct quote from the just published REAGAN DIARIES. The entry is dated May 17, 1986…. ‘A moment I’ve been dreading. George brought his ne’re-do-well son around this morning and asked me to find the kid a job. Not the political one who lives in Florida. The one who hangs around here all the time looking shiftless. This so-called kid is already almost 40 and has never had a real job. Maybe I’ll call Kinsley over at The New Republic and see if they’ll hire him as a contributing editor or something. That looks like easy work.’ (via)
Sorry, but if this is real, it still doesn’t count. Karl Rove established a long time ago that ‘born again’ means ‘born again’ and anything that happens before the age of 40 is a ‘youthful mistake’ regardless.
If any admission arises, it’ll probably take the form that this was George at his lowest ebb etc., just before he found God and turned his back on liquor… and cocaine… and wild women…
Perhaps we’ll even get to see a hitherto-undiscovered entry from the next day, which begins; “Boy, was I wrong about that young Bush lad…”
[Psst! Regulars: have you noticed the year? I call ‘nexus’.]
Some lovely detective work by Mark. I have a couple of details and observations to add:
188.8.131.52 is the IP address connected so strongly to the Facebook impersonation. This is a *static* IP address used for DSL customers of KeConnect. It could be that more than one person is working on this, but only one user account is involved.
Of course, one of those Tories is Iain Dale, who has recently and consistently shown strong form tolerating and allowing sock-puppetry and other forms of online chicanery when it suits him, but just because he tolerates it from others doesn’t mean he does it himself (he just can’t blame people for making that assumption is all). Also, just because someone anonymously claims that Lamb only increased his majority by telling voters that Iain Dale is gay (I wasn’t aware this was ever a secret, BTW), it does not follow that Iain Dale would be involved in this attempt to undermine his former adversary.
If anything, logic would dictate that the Tory with the strongest motive is the Tory who (currently) has the most to gain from a successful campaign of this kind and/or one of his key contributors to his campaign…. but Trevor Ivory has reportedly issued a strong denial.
I think I’ll sign off there for now and go in search of that denial…
Still trying to find an online record of the reported denial…. wait, no… with this little bit of help, I managed to track it down:
Eastern Daily Press MP fuming over Facebook fake: And in another twist the internet hoax had an e-mail link to the MP’s Conservative rival, Trevor Ivory, who yesterday strongly denied all knowledge on how the page was created… He said: “I strongly condemn what has happened to Mr Lamb and I have written to him to say I had nothing whatsoever to do with it.”
UPDATE – Someone raised a very good point under the comments of this video. They said; “This should be shown on the news with the policeman talking into his radio.”
And it bloody well should and all… but it probably won’t, because because left isn’t on the only bias that fucks with our media feed.
UPDATE (20 Aug) – Sometimes Dizzy can be genuinely amusing. This morning he has his knickers in a twist about what he describes as witting/unwitting intellectual dishonesty… the ‘death’ of objective knowledge.
But that’s not intellectual dishonesty, is it? Neither is passing off as satire propaganda-laden claptrap about all climate change activists wanting us to “(live in the) stone age washing ourselves with cold water and pumice”.
I did however particularly like this intellectually vacuous statement. Apparently, the officer at the end of the video gives “a somewhat embellished version of events into his radio.” This is based on the fact that because he said something that you don’t see in the video it can’t possibly have happened.
Below is the policeman’s version of events as delivered into his radio:
“To reiterate…officers came under sustained attack… punches were thrown… and were kicked repeatedly. Officers on the floor were kicked after they tripped over guy ropes and tents and [muffled]”
As I’ve already pointed out under comments, if the police were under *sustained* attack… and were kicked *repeatedly* these actions would have been visible in *all* of the footage available to the editor and this video simply wouldn’t exist in its current state, because there would be no usable raw footage to work with.
I completely stand by my assertion that the officer’s version of events has been embellished.
Of course, there is the slim possibility that the creator has done a near-to-impossible editing job and/or filmed an entirely different event and tacked this police officer’s report onto the end, but I doubt it for one very good reason that also makes me doubt that this video has been massaged at all; I think that the creator is unlikely to take this risk because he must know that the police have been photographing and video-taping everything as well. You see, unlike Dizzy, I’ve been paying attention. I’ve read eyewitnessreports and have even been down to the camp to witness it and the police/media presence for myself. But even you can have one over on Dizzy without going through any of that nonsense; all you have to do is actually watch the video (at about 01:14 to 01:16 you’ll see at least five cameramen, at least one of which is a policeman… the easiest one to identify is on the top right wearing a hat and carrying what is most likely a digicam above his head).
If there were a grand unseen event of sustained attack and repeated kicking (on a ‘floor’ somewhere in that field) then the police would have some footage of it. Or at least some photographs of officers with boo-boos that need to be kissed better. If this film were a fake, we would have heard about it almost immediately, and we quite likely would have seen alternative footage within a day. But, no, all I’ve seen so far is a few sock-puppets disputing the presence of CS gas canisters.
Incidentally, I’ve discussed some of this briefly with Dizzy via email. He’s of the view that the eyewitness reports I mention here are compromised because Indymedia has “a political agenda”. He even seemingly rejects the notion that this was a repelled incursion – not an attacked cordon – on the same basis. Remember, this comes to you from a man with no political agenda who won’t hear a disparaging word about 18DoughtyStreet because it too has no political agenda.
Anyway, let’s get back to that police officer and this segment of his embellished report:
“To reiterate…officers came under sustained attack… punches were thrown… and were kicked repeatedly.”
The structure of this statement amuses me. If it ever came to court, the officer would quite likely get away with saying that he meant punches were thrown by their side or both sides, but he was too out of breath to include that vital bit of information in his sentence.
Indymedia: During the attempted raid, an officer, (UC3666) completely unprovoked, punched one of the people forming the human barrier. The officer was immediately removed from the site by a senior colleague.
2. Request a statement from the police; not least about the claim made above.
[EDIT: Quote fixed. Still chasing ecilops.]
UPDATE (5:30pm) – I have a statement from the police about the ‘UC3666′ claim made above, and will happily repeat it here in full:
At approximately 19.15 on 14.8.07 officers from the Forward Intelligence Team who were patroling the camp were confronted by demonstators who attempted to physically remove them from the site. Colleagues were called in to support them and maintain public order.
The policing team was re-established on site shortly afterwards.
The MPS has stated from the outset that we wish to facilitate lawful protest. Our police presence continues on site at the request of the land owner.
No complaint has been received about the alleged incident.