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January 27, 2005

I seem to recall saying "And you're next..."

I don't care if it's in Belmarsh, my own home, or a sodding budgie cage... detention without trial is detention without trial. And I'm simply delighted to wake up in a country that will now allow the same treatment of its own citizens. In the interests of fairness, you understand...

BBC - Clarke set for terror plan fight: Charles Clarke's "control orders" mean UK and foreign citizens suspected of terrorist involvement could be subject to house arrest, curfews or tagging. The Law Society has already dubbed the plans an "abuse of power".

Guardian - Wider still and wider: First the good news. The home secretary signalled yesterday he does not want a continuing battle with the law lords - or with the opposition parties - over where the line between security and liberty should be drawn. Instead, Charles Clarke accepted the law lords' ruling in December that current anti-terrorist law, under which suspect foreign nationals are being held in indefinite detention without charge or trial, was unlawful... The bad news is serious. Where the previous act was confined to foreign nationals with links to groups involved with the al-Qaida terrorist network, the new order will be wider in scope (animal rights extremists, suspected Irish terrorists and others will be covered) and applicable to all British subjects. More seriously still, the orders will be imposed by a politician, the home secretary, on security service evidence that will be both untested and unknown to arrested suspects or their lawyers.

Did you catch that last bit? You don't even need to be linked to the organisation we're technically/maybe at 'war' with.

There are many links here; I suggest you follow them:
Europhobia - It's for your own good, you know

UPDATE - Boris Johnson: "Just what the hell does Charles Clarke think he is doing, arrogating the power - TO HIMSELF - to detain people indefinitely without trial?"

UPDATE - BBC - Anti-terror measures: Your reaction

Posted by Manic on January 27, 2005 9:02 AM in the category The War on Stupid

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» It's for your own good, you know... from Europhobia
"I don't care if it's in Belmarsh, my own home, or a fucking budgie cage... detention without trial is detention without trial." [Read More]

Tracked on January 27, 2005 10:40 AM

» Michael Howard on House Arrest from Murky.org
Interesting, my letter would have reached Michael Howard yesterday and I'm not claiming cause and effect (but would it not be nice?) - Michael Howard spoke out against House Arrest today. 'He disagrees with the plans to permit suspected terrorists... [Read More]

Tracked on February 2, 2005 5:02 PM

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	« Where does your 'news' come from? \| Main \| Jamster Hamster-Dances their way into trouble » January 27, 2005 I seem to recall saying "And you're next..." I don't care if it's in Belmarsh, my own home, or a sodding budgie cage... detention without trial is detention without trial. And I'm simply delighted to wake up in a country that will now allow the same treatment of its own citizens. In the interests of fairness, you understand... BBC - Clarke set for terror plan fight: Charles Clarke's "control orders" mean UK and foreign citizens suspected of terrorist involvement could be subject to house arrest, curfews or tagging. The Law Society has already dubbed the plans an "abuse of power". Guardian - Wider still and wider: First the good news. The home secretary signalled yesterday he does not want a continuing battle with the law lords - or with the opposition parties - over where the line between security and liberty should be drawn. Instead, Charles Clarke accepted the law lords' ruling in December that current anti-terrorist law, under which suspect foreign nationals are being held in indefinite detention without charge or trial, was unlawful... The bad news is serious. Where the previous act was confined to foreign nationals with links to groups involved with the al-Qaida terrorist network, the new order will be wider in scope (animal rights extremists, suspected Irish terrorists and others will be covered) and applicable to all British subjects. More seriously still, the orders will be imposed by a politician, the home secretary, on security service evidence that will be both untested and unknown to arrested suspects or their lawyers. Did you catch that last bit? You don't even need to be linked to the organisation we're technically/maybe at 'war' with. There are many links here; I suggest you follow them: Europhobia - It's for your own good, you know UPDATE - Boris Johnson: "Just what the hell does Charles Clarke think he is doing, arrogating the power - TO HIMSELF - to detain people indefinitely without trial?" UPDATE - BBC - Anti-terror measures: Your reaction Posted by Manic on January 27, 2005 9:02 AM in the category The War on Stupid Pings (Trackback) For trackbacks, this is the URL: http://www.bloggerheads.com/cgi-bin/mt-tbbh_20x07.pl/183 Listed below are links to weblogs that reference I seem to recall saying "And you're next...": » It's for your own good, you know... from Europhobia "I don't care if it's in Belmarsh, my own home, or a fucking budgie cage... detention without trial is detention without trial." [Read More] Tracked on January 27, 2005 10:40 AM » Michael Howard on House Arrest from Murky.org Interesting, my letter would have reached Michael Howard yesterday and I'm not claiming cause and effect (but would it not be nice?) - Michael Howard spoke out against House Arrest today. 'He disagrees with the plans to permit suspected terrorists... [Read More] Tracked on February 2, 2005 5:02 PM Comments Post a comment Thanks for signing in, . Now you can comment. (sign out) (If you're new to Bloggerheads, you may need to be approved by the moderator before your comment will appear. Until then, it won't appear on the entry. Thanks for waiting.) URL: Remember me? YesNo Comments:

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