Navigor is a BNP front - Albert Hurwood is on the list

http://howlingspoons.blogspot.com/search/label/Navigor

I'm a happy poons.

I'm still conflicted... but happy for you, poons.

ta

So, twice in one week we're all skirting around something which is firmly in the public domain forever thanks to the internet and pretending that Court Orders are actually effectual. The mental strain on the British psyche must be nearing breaking point.

Of course, we'll all be laughing on the other side of our faces in a couple of weeks when this all turns out to have been a viral for the finale of Spooks.

LOL

So far there are three types of political blogger on this; those who have linked to the list, those who won't, but still wish to mention/discuss the issue... and one little gang of right-wing thugs, still trying to form a coherent policy that doesn't make the look like total twats/hypocrites.

Dale hasn't blogged it. Staines hasn't blogged it.

Hendren has only just managed an attempt at a thoughtful piece about Baby P, but he can't even get his facts straight (the articles in Murdoch papers that did the damage on ID were written *after* the court order was issued), plays dumb over the clear fact that he's a publisher, etc. etc. etc.:
http://dizzythinks.net/2008/11/where-is-line-to-be-drawn-on-contempt.html

I look forward to his comments on the BNP matter and how that relates to his use of my personal data as a weapon. No doubt we can expect the same weasel words about random strings of numbers, if he mentions it at all.

(Actually, I may be a little bit unfair on some people, here. Judging by the unregulated thread madness he left behind when he retired after Cameron's speech, Staines probably hasn't been around/sober for most of yesterday afternoon and evening, and is probably only now waking up with a raging hangover and aching kidneys. And I'm sure many other right-wing 'bloggers' will decide how they're going to approach this after Daddy has decided.)

Interesting from Lancaster UAF:

http://lancasteruaf.blogspot.com/2008/11/griffin-in-panic-as-membership-demands.html

It appears the party is "bigging up" its membership by not actually deleting names from the list once they leave the BNP, die, have a lobotomy etc.

I find that especially amusing, as my lunchtime post is on the subject of Iain Dale's inflation of readership figures (yes, again).

But apart from this mention, I'll not link the two. That would be uncalled* for.

(*Does not apply to Paul Staines, obviously).

Oh, and I told you so:

"The same would be true if it was just a list of phone numbers as there would be no means of identifying who the number belonged to from the number alone so it wouldn't represent 'personal data'." - Phil Hendren
http://dizzythinks.net/2008/11/should-you-barred-from-job-for-being.html

Pop goes the weasel.

And not that I've been racially profiling the list AT ALL, but a quick skim shows not a single Patel, Singh, Khan etc etc in the BNP's numbers.

And that nice Mr Griffin said they were such an INCLUSIVE party.

Hehehehe

But... but...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Zje1ny0F_js

"Of course I know where to find the full list, but I can't and shan't be sharing it with you."

Don't think you need to.... The people that have registered 'bnp member's list' domains have done enough....

Though it's a bit much having ago at Phil Hendred and then juxtaposing Mr. Staines with them....

It can't be much fun being on that list and having any kind of job at all.

E.g.,

Activist (discretion requested)|Teacher (secondary school)

Discretion requested (employment concerns) Government employee. IT consultant

This one is quite amusing:

Membership suspended 20.9.05 (inappropriate tattoo). Suspension lifted 27.09.05

One week ban, surely tattoos are permanent? (Though I am surprised they banned for that.)

Some others:

Former policeman. Lecturer in human rights/data protection

Former policeman (international security/counter terrorism)

This one demonstrates a lack of decisiveness:

Activist. Ex-Conservative and then Lib-Dem councillor, ex-chairman of local Green Party and UKIP member. Minister of Religion. Cert. Ed. Hobbies: steam railways

What amazed me if they list one members good quality as being able to speak fluent French?

WTF?

They don't want us talking to Europe, how can that be a strong point in their view?

mikkimoose:

Phil Hendren published my personal ex-directory phone number on his site in a clear attempt to intimidate me into silence. It's relevant, and totally called for in any discussion about the rights and wrongs of using personal data as a political weapon.

Staines makes a big show of "mainly deleting BNP stuff" from his comments when (a) what he's really engaging in is self-preserving censorship, and (b) his comments output and a lot of his content acts like a magnet for BNP types.

The latter applies as much to the 'reds under the bed' nonsense as it does to this casually-racist crap:
http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2008/10/paul_staines_is.asp
http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2008/10/paul_staines_vi.asp

That said, my tongue was firmly in my cheek during the Staines comment, which most regulars will read (correctly) as a teasing reference to his 1986 adventure and his ongoing inability to adequately explain just what the hell he thought he was playing at.

I saw the 'tattoo' entry, BTW, and had a good giggle myself at the man's dedication. I have a theory; perhaps that member *changed* his swastika into a pretty flower or something.

I don't have any problem with you bashing Phil Hendren. I did attempt to email him once, and got a bizarre and incoherent response. I am aware of your reference to Mr. Staines' 1986 escapade, just think it's a little unfair....

BTW, your comments server seems very dodgy. It times out or gives a 500 error at least half of the time I try and submit a comment.

I wonder if the members living in Saudi Arabia and the like see any inconsistency with their membership.

Tch. You should know by know that Phil Hendren is more cleverer and betterer than all of us combined. We cannot hope to begin to understand his impenetrable shield of logic.

"it's a little unfair"

What? How dare you? No, I shall never back down and admit an error or apologise. You're banned. End of.

Seriously, you have a point, but Staines is massively unfair in his ongoing use of distortion, and is in no position to wine about it.

(Tch. Now look what you made me do. Naughty Tim.)

Comments server: It's been an issue since Usmanov. I've been meaning to switch to WordPress for ages but, contrary to what some Ashcroft-funded Tories will tell you, money *is* an issue (as is time; ; Bloggerheads is a *big* site and I'd need to take a week off for all the little manual fixes alone).

Saudi Arabia: That would be another discussion about money, I'm guessing.

It seems that this might be a contacts list not just a member list which might make it more problematic both for the BNP in terms of data protection and for those on the list.

See http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/948762/

Here is the complete list:
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