Iain Dale: once again condemned by his own words

Posted by Tim Ireland at February 5, 2008

Category: The Political Weblog Movement

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No response from Shane Greer yet.

No response from CCHQ yet.

No response from Paul Staines and his tax lawyer, either.

But at least Iain Dale has responded to this…. and if you have the stomach to watch him hiding behind his sock-puppets as they play the man, click here for confirmation that he *does* approve of such attacks on his site because, in his words; “[The attacks on John Hirst] are fair comment. Jailhouselawyer calls me far worse on his blog. If he can’t take it he shouldn’t dish it out.”

1. So what’s changed in the last year and a bit, Iain?

Iain Dale (Jan 7, 2007): “Verity and Jailhouselawyer, take your stupid fight elsewhere. No more of it here. All future comments attacking each other will be deleted.”

2. Fair comment? You what? (See: #4)

3. Iain will often retreat into the language of the playground. All that’s missing from my personal collection of comebacks is “I am rubber and you are glue…”

4. Iain Dale claims here that John Hirst has called him something worse than an unrepentant killer and benefit cheat with a dodgy degree. Do correct me if I’m wrong, but unless he can find something to back it up, that’s libel isn’t it?


  1. jailhouselawyer says

    “…that’s libel isn’t it?”.Yes.However, Iain Dale’s defence is that he is not a lawyer.My advice to him is get one soon, because ignorance of the law is no excuse.It is worth pointing out that whilst I am not worth suing, Mr Dale is.

  2. Manic says

    "However, Iain Dale's defence is that he is not a lawyer."Has he actually said that somewhere, JHL?(Oh, and speaking of the possible need for a lawyer, I did enjoy Iain telling the world that he doesn't read every comment he publishes on his pseudo-blog.)http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2008/02/who-authoris

  3. Paul.Ferrari says

    Can you imagine the "sock-puppet overload" that would occur if somebody started Legal Action against Iain over something he had said or allowed on his Blog ? It would go completely ballistic if it was JailHouseLawyer – I tip my hat to you by the way JailHouseLawyer, you conduct yourself with great control and dignity whilst being subjected to disgraceful and unprovoked comments.

  4. jailhouselawyer says

    Yes, on 18DS, in reference to your spat with him.Why use comment moderation and then claim not to read those attacking someone on your blog? It means that he approves of them, and "fair comment" proves this. Then why have rules of engagement? Why does he not state you may insult and libel those I don't like, but don't insult and libel those I do like?He will look silly in court telling a judge he does not read every comment.

  5. Manic says

    Hm. The last time something was broadcast on 18DS that prompted me to request a copy of that broadcast, I was told no copies existed… and I don't imagine getting copies of old broadcasts (that may or may not be archived) will be any easier now that 18DS has imploded into bold new territory. Maybe you could run it by Iain. I'm sure he won't mind confirming that he said it.;o)(PS – It's not a spat. It's a disagreement about conduct. To call it a spat invites people to file it under 'personal dispute' and ignore the details. And we both know how important those details are.)

  6. D-Notice says

    Jailhouse Lawyer's not the only one to have been libelled recently on Iain's site… He called me a Labour supporter! http://d-notice.blogspot.com/2008/02/d-notice-is-

  7. Manic says

    Heh. An honest mistake, I'm sure.Mind you, many deliberately misleading claims that I'm a Labour activist have come from that neck of the woods. One of the nastier toads in Iain's pond keeps peddling the line that I'm in the direct employ of a Labour MP.

  8. jailhouselawyer says

    Spat n. 1. Petty, brief quarrel.Apology. However, spatted and spatting does define to bicker; to dispute. And it is definitely a dispute.According to Iain Dale in an email to me, he alleged that you were trying to police the internet. In another email to me he demanded I remove my link to your blog Iain Dale's Dairy, or suffer the consequences of removal of my link on his blog. I didn't and he did. I accused him of hypocrisy and pointed out that he was trying to police the internet. Now, that is what is called fair comment.

  9. Manic says

    A dispute, yes.. but not a dispute for the sake of it, or as a desperate ploy for attention/traffic, or at the behest of NuLabour masters, or because I forgot to take my medication… etc. etc. etc.He was even cheekier the other day. I dared to insist that he should follow HIS rules. Iain responded by announcing that I was banned for insisting that he should follow MY rules:https://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2008/01/iain…Reading your earlier comment, it occurs to me how much fun it would be to watch Iain try any of these tricks in court.(dreams)

  10. jailhouselawyer says

    Dreams come true. In the meantime, perhaps trial by media?

  11. Manic says

    And why not? To paraphrase Iain; if he can't take it he shouldn't dish it out nerny-nerny-ner-ner.

  12. ian says

    Is Iain Dale not a lawyer as in "not a blogging expert"?

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